Category: Marcus Borg

The Origin of the Gospels: Marcus Borg’s View

As mentioned, I went to a discussion between Marcus Borg and Paul Anderson on the origins of the gospels last night. After Paul Anderson finished his talk on the historicity of the Fourth Gospel it was apparent to me that my co-blogger, JohnDave Medina, would need to be to one to review that part of the evening since he is a student of Anderson at George Fox Seminary. I decided that I would take Marcus Borg since (1) it was more familiar material and (2) it is basically the same thing he has put in print elsewhere. Expect the review of Anderson’s talk sometime this weekend.

Borg gave most of his attention to the Synoptics. He divided his lecture into three parts: (1) The Synoptic Gospels and the Relationship Among Them; (2) Patterns (or Structure) of the Synoptics; and (3) Gospels as Developing Tradition. It only seems fitting for me to divide my review the same way.

Part One: The Synoptic Gospels and the Relationship Among Them

Borg presented the traditional two source hypothesis: Mark (Mk) and Q. He noted that approximately 90% of Mark can be found in Matthew  (Mt) and nearly two-thirds of Mark can be found in Luke (Lk). This leads to the conclusion that Mt and Lk are dependent upon Mk, therefore Mk has chronological priority.

Then Borg addressed the shared content of Mt and Lk which scholars have called “Q” (which is derived from the German Quelle meaning “source”). This is a document that has never been seen but it believed to be the common source for Mt and Lk which would explain the content shared between those two gospels not found in Mk.

Of course, there are some problems with this view. For one, we have never seen the so-called “Q”. Second, although it may be a consensus amongst modern scholars that Mt and Lk are dependent upon Mk we must remember that most of the early church thought Mt was written first and even today there is a minority opinion that Mt may be first. Nevertheless, his thesis is fairly secure amongst most gospels scholars.

Part Two: Patterns of the Synoptics

Borg moved on to show how this effects the narrative structure of Mt and Lk. He divides Mk into three parts:

(1) Galilee: Chapters 1-8

(2) Final Journey: Chapters 9-10

(3) Jerusalem: Chapters 11-16

Borg showed that Mt and Lk follow this same pattern with some variations (e.g. Lk expands journey motif from two and a half chapters to nine). He argues that there is conceptual expanding as well. According to Borg, Mk does not have Jesus speaking of himself in any sense as Lord, Messiah, Son of God, et cetera. He says 8.27-30 and the end of chapter 14 are exceptions, in private, and the words of people about Jesus, not Jesus about himself.

The one odd assertion that he presented here was when noting Mk  14.62 he commented that Ἐγώ εἰμι can be “I am” or “Am I?” since Greek word order does not matter. Well, I am not sure what he hoped to accomplish by this statement. It is obvious from the text that the author understood his quotation of Jesus to mean “I am” since this is followed by “…and you shall see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of power, and coming with the clouds of heaven.” If Borg meant that the actual, historical moment when Jesus said these words could be understood as a question rather than an affirmation this seems to be a waste of words. Who is to know such things? What we do know is the authorial intent is “I am” in the affirmative.

Part Three: Gospels as Developing Tradition

It was at this juncture where I bounced back and forth between affirming and denying Borg’s assertions. He argued that the gospels contain both early and later Jesus traditions. Fair enough, but what does this mean? Since he dates the gospels to the very late end of the first century he is convinced that none of the gospel authors were eyewitnesses. Therefore, the traditions about Jesus had decades to grow and expand beyond what actually happened in the life of the historical Jesus of Galilee.

For Borg there is a thin line between what Jesus really said and did and the “experiences of the post-Easter Jesus” that were shared by the later Christian community. So for Borg Jesus never really said, “I am the way, the truth, and the life” but this is who the post-Easter Jesus became to the early Christians. Their experience with him and reflections upon him led to their understanding of him as the way, truth, and life. These words were imported back into his mouth.

The need to apply Jesus’ teachings to the current situation of the various Jesus communities led to a three step process which we find solidified in the canonical gospels:

(1) Memory: The words and deed of the actual historical Jesus as remembered by his earliest follows.

(2) Interpretation: The application of those words and deeds to the community to which the various gospels were addressed.

(3) Testimony: The shared experiences of later followers of Jesus to the significance he had in their lives.

For Borg it may look something like this. Jesus did or said something. The evangelist tell the story but within their own literary construct which provides meaning foreign to the actual historical event. An example of this may be the sermon where Jesus says, “Blessed are the poor”. For one evangelist this saying may have “economic” implication so “the poor” is quoted. For another there may be a more internal poverty that needs to be addressed so he will interpret Jesus’ words quoting him as saying “poor in spirit”. Most evangelicals can go this far with Borg.

It is the next step where we depart and I go with Wright, Nick Perrin, and others who think that what we find in the gospels is grounded in the words of the real, historical Jesus. Interpretation is one thing, but Borg goes further to suggest that many of the sayings are simply made up based on the continued voice of the post-Easter Jesus. Since Jesus was not just a historical person but someone being continually experienced by the community it was hard to distinguish between what he said before his death and what he “said” to the Christian communities as a spiritual presence.

Final Thoughts

I appreciate two things about Borg. He is willing to explore the historical Jesus and the meaning/interpretation of his words by the evangelist amongst early Christian communities. Likewise, I appreciate his emphasis on Jesus as more than a historical person, but a present person, who lives with us.

Where I parted with him is the assertion that so-much of the content of the gospels is some sort of “post-Easter” voice of Christ. I think Wright and others have shown that there is good reason to see Jesus as saying many of the things he did or something like it that was interpreted by the evangelist.

Furthermore, I think there is a huge difference between the “post-Easter” Jesus of which Borg speaks and the resurrected Jesus of the Christian faith. If the resurrection did not happen than there is a lot to be desired. The material realm seems secondary to a spiritual realm. The best God could do is save Jesus’ soul/spirit and therefore the best we can hope for is some sort of disembodied life after death. It is a meta-narrative that makes me wonder why Christianity is worth adopting at all.

Anderson’s response was great and I am sure JohnDave will do a good job explaining it. To create a segway to JohnDave’s post(s) let me say I think Anderson does a great job showing that the Johannine tradition may have been a two-staged process and stage one may have been in dialog with the Jesus traditions of the Synoptics. In other words we should not dismiss the historical reliability of the Fourth Gospel. I will leave it to JohnDave to say more.

Presupposing “Scholarly Consensus”

Later today I will be posting some of my notes from event I attended last night where Marcus Borg and Paul Anderson discussed the origin of the gospels. One remark I want to make this morning is in regards to rhetoric. It is often the case that conservative scholars are challenged for presenting something as having an “apostolic consesus” or unanimity amongst “genuine” Christians (e.g. Bart D. Ehrman’s criticisms of early Christian scholars who ignore the diversity of early Christian beliefs). As an example I know that if I said, “All Christians believe in the actual space-time bodily resurrection of Jesus” there would be protest. Why? It would be asserted that I am stacking the deck by defining “Christians” as people who “believe in the actual-space time bodily resurrection of Jesus”. It would not be possible to defeat my argument because of the presupposition of what constitutes a “genuine Christian”. A necessary rebuttal would be to accuse me of begging the question, namely I am asking you to accept my definition of “Christian”.

Likewise, if I assert that “all Christians” in the apostolic era or early church believed the same thing about this or that there is a defining process. I am saying “all Christians” = emerging orthodoxy. This would essentially stack the deck in my favor because if someone responds “What about the Syrian ‘Thomistic’ Christians?” or “What about Roman Valentinian Christians?” all I have to do to show unanimity is to discredit the association with Thomistic and Valentinians groups with authentic Christianity (which may be legitimate, but further steps need to be taken).

What this does not do is get to the truth of the matter. In the first case it does not prove that the resurrection occurred, or even that it is an essential “Christian” doctrine, simply because those who have been determined “orthodox” believe it. Likewise, I cannot disprove that some early Christians believed this or that simply by denying their status as Christians. No one would allow this. As I have come to understand, this is a rhetorical ploy (for better or worse) that may have value but does not prove the point either way.

Yet I have noticed that Borg does something very similar. He often asserts that this or that understanding of the evolution of the gospels is a “scholarly consensus”. The problem with this is simple: it is not necessarily true. What he does is defines “scholars” in such a way that those who disagree with the findings of the Jesus Seminar are often not considered authentic “scholars” for one reason or another. Most evangelical “scholars” would be dismissed due to unobjective faith commitments or something akin.

For the untrained ear this seems to mean that what Borg is about to say is an unchallenged, open-and-shut case. It is not. He has written books with N.T. Wright who is a scholar and who does not agree with him on many of the premises he presented. Nick Perrin, D.A. Carson, Markus Bockmuehl, Simon J. Gathercole, Richard Bauckham, and many, many others disagree with the “findings” of Borg and the Seminar. Even if it could be proven that Borg holds the majority view on this or that subject this is not a “consensus”.

The problem I have with Borg’s assertion is that it defines scholars as people that tend to agree with him and accept his paradigm. Even if you agree with some of Borg’s premises (which Anderson affirmed last night)  this does not mean what  Borg would lead his audience to believe (as was exemplified by Anderson’s disagreements with Borg on the historical nature of the Fourth Gospel). Before he presented his own view last night he tossed it out there a few times that this is the “scholarly consensus”. While I would agree that several points were it is also evident that many conclusions are not.

Nevertheless, the rhetoric works by drawing the listener into affirming points 1, 2, and 3  only to affirm point 4 as being the same categorically when it is not. Borg could have been a bit more objective if he would have been a bit more honest when he reached certain points that are not the consensus toward the end by explaining that these are his conclusions, or even popular conclusions, but not a consensus (unless by consensus we mean something like “51% or higher” which is not what people usually think of when they hear the word “consensus”).

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For a discussion on the subject of “scholarly consensus” that may be worth reading go here.

The Origin of the Gospels: A Discussion with Marcus Borg and Paul Anderson

Tonight here in Portland there will be a discussion/presentation featuring Marcus Borg and Paul Anderson. Borg is a popular historical Jesus scholar. Anderson is at the forefront of a movement of sch0lars who are revisiting the historicity of the Fourth Gospel. Ths subject will be the origin of the Synoptics and the Gospel of John. Both JohnDave Medina and I will be attending so you can expect some discussion on this blog later in the week.

If anyone else in the Portland area is interested this event will take place at the Reedwood Friends Church located at 2901 SE Steele St. It is scheduled to take place from 6:30-8pm. For more information call 503.234.5017.

Historical Jesus and Gospel of John Events in the Pacific Northwest

Paul N. Anderson, founding co-chair of the John, Jesus, and History Group at the national Society of Biblical Literature meetings, is set to do a two series of lectures on the Gospel of John. These series begin April 18 and run to May 30. The venue is Reedwood Friends Church in Portland, Oregon. The Sunday series is titled “Reading John Again . . . for the First Time” (from 11:00 am to noon) and the Wednesday series is “Jesus, Christ, and John” (from 6:30 pm to 8:00 pm). Looking at the schedule, these will be interesting and informative sessions. Here is a preview:

  • April 18 (Sun.): Navigating the Living Waters of the Gospel of John – Wading with Children and Swimming with Elephants
  • April 21 (Weds.): The Literary Riddles of the Fourth Gospel – John’s Literary Puzzles
  • April 25 (Sun.): In the Beginning – Then and Now
  • April 28 (Weds.): The Theological Riddles of the Fourth Gospel – The Christ of Faith

Of particular interest will be the joint session with another local but renowned historical-Jesus scholar Marcus J. Borg:

  • May 19 (Weds.): The Origin of the Gospels – The Synoptics and John

Anderson was recently featured in George Fox University‘s Journal about his insights on the Synoptics and John (here). We will get to hear perspectives from both Anderson and Borg at a public symposium hosted again at Reedwood:

  • May 22 (Sat.): Jesus in Bi-Optic Perspective: Latest Scholarship on the Synoptics and John

Christian News Northwest, in its print version, thinks this session has potential for a scholarly yet civil debate.

Paul Anderson to Teach at Trinity Episcopal Cathedral

Paul N. Anderson, Professor of Biblical and Quaker Studies at George Fox University and a well-recognized Johannine scholar, will be teaching a four week series beginning Wednesday, February 24, 2010 at Trinity Episcopal Cathedral, home church of Marcus Borg. The series will come from the book of Revelation and will deal with its imagery and with the Johannine situation during that time. I intend to be there all four weeks.

Trinity Episcopal Cathedral is located at 147 NW 19th Ave, Portland, OR 92709. Directions are available here.

Anyone who is thinking of joining can find the information here.

Rethinking the Authentic Sayings of Jesus

angryjesusOne popular argument for Jesus’ claim to be divine is the scenario presented by C.S. Lewis known as the ‘Lord, Liar, or Lunatic’ argument. For those who may be unfamiliar with Lewis’ argument it gives people three possible responses to Jesus’ claim to divinity. (1) Jesus was a crazy fanatic and therefore his claims are nothing more than a delusion. (2) Jesus was a sinister liar who wanted to gather a following for some deviant purposes other than those he presented. (3) Jesus was actually Lord of all and therefore one’s decision to accept or reject his claim has eternal consequences.

In recent months I have read material from Bart D. Ehrman and John Hick that have destroyed Lewis’ argument with one simple suggestion: maybe Jesus never said those things at all. It may be that this is just the deification of Jesus by his followers over a period of several decades after his death. First, Jesus’ presence was felt in the hearts of believers. Second, the body was missing and this evolved into the rumor that he had resurrected from the dead. Third, people like Paul of Tarsus incorporated Hellenistic elements in this Messianic sect of Judaism and over time it became Christianity.

The historical Jesus accepted by ‘The Jesus Seminar’, Marcus Borg, J.D. Crossan, and others is the Jesus underneath the Christ of Christendom. This Jesus probably said many of the wonderful, ethical things said during the ‘Sermon on the Mount’. He probably proclaimed a form of the ‘golden rule’ found in all the world’s major religions. He probably boiled Torah down to its essence–love God and others. He probably lived a very moral life. He probably talked a lot about the fatherhood of God. He probably told parables like the prodigal son and the good Samaritan. He probably forgave people and he taught his disciples to be pacifist. This is the historical Jesus of scholarship.

This is all fine and dandy but I have always wondered why the historical Jesus turned out to be the nicer Jesus of the gospels. It is usually proposed that the Gospel of Mark is the earliest gospel. Isn’t Jesus a bit creepy and secretive in that gospel? Isn’t it true that the Jesus of the gospels talks a lot more about hell and judgment than most of those topics we like to attribute to him? Isn’t Jesus a bit racist and sexist in the Gospel of John when he treats the woman at the well like someone who owes him something and who ought to know who he really is at his essence?

I guess I am wondering if we use the criteria of historical Jesus scholarship why have we not yet heard any scholars conclude that Jesus may have been Lewis’ madman or lying liar? Maybe the historical Jesus did talk about hell, and his own divinity, and maybe the ‘Sermon on the Mount’ makes him only more dogmatic and hard headed than the Pharisees. Maybe this Jesus who talked about people eating his flesh and drinking his blood said those weird things and his followers who were drawn to him smoothed it over a bit.

Why is it not possible that as the gospel went to the Jews and then to the Greeks it became important to make Jesus more acceptable. Maybe the “golden rule” was taken from common religious ethics and placed in the mouth of Jesus to make him sounder kind. Maybe?

I know it is more likely that if the historical Jesus does not look like the Jesus of the gospels he probably looked like the good Jesus that we all love and adore because how else did he change the lives of so many people? But if we are going to be objective historians we cannot rule out that he may have been an absolute wacko! He may have said many of those unacceptable saying. It could be that his small sect of disciples made him a nicer person as they tried to add members to their dying sect? Maybe they softened Jesus up a bit so he would be more palatable.

Whatever the case may be I think this is why so-called “historical” Jesus scholarship usually ends up at a dead end. We always make the Jesus we want. We have a ‘Jesus buffet’ where we pick and choose what we want to accept about the Jesus of the gospels and reject what taste like onions. But maybe, just maybe, Jesus was more the onion than the apple. I look forward to reading the historical Jesus scholar that depicts this type of Jesus.

Studying the Scriptures in Portland, OR

I am a student at Western Seminary in Portland, OR. I have already completed my MA in Biblical and Theological Studies and now I am beginning my ThM. I completed my first degree at the satellite campus in Los Gatos, CA. Now I am studying at the main campus.

The region surrounding Portland, OR, has a strong history of biblical education. Along with Western Seminary there is Multnomah University and George Fox University. Both of these schools have seminaries.

In addition to these evangelical institutions Oregon State University can claim one of the world’s leading ‘historical Jesus’ scholars in the retired Marcus J. Borg. I am not sure if he does occasional lectures or not. I do know that his wife is clergy at Trinity Episcopal Cathedral and that he is the canon theologian there as well.