Category: G.K. Chesterton

Five thoughts on objectivity, open-mindedness, and scholarship.

C. Michael Patton’s recent attack on Roman Catholic scholarship from the perspective of an evangelical caused me to think a bit more about the language he used regarding epistemology. In his first post “Embracing Doubt or Why ‘Roman Catholic Scholarship’ is an Oxymoron” he spoke positively of Rene Descartes’ starting point in doubting everything. Also, in a single sentence, he affirmed that “no one is completely objective in their studies” and then criticized Roman Catholics because “when it comes to their defined dogma” they “cannot really study objectively”. This has forced me to ask whether or not we are cautious enough when discussing “objectivity”, open-mindedness, and scholarship. These are my brief(er) thoughts:

(1) There is no such thing as so-called “objectivity”. Let’s examine this sentence: “JohnDave Medina examines his new piano.”

Who is the subject? JohnDave Medina. What is the object? The piano. Is it possible for JohnDave Medina to know the piano in such a way that he somehow embodies the piano making himself “objective”? No. He will always be the subject when he is examining something. Everything he sees and learns while accurate and true is still from his subjective perspective.

JohnDave Medina is wearing glasses. This means he may see the piano differently that a sibling with weak eyes who is not wearing his or her glasses. He senses the texture of the keys through his hands (no one can share that unique moment). There are a million ways in which this is a subjective moment.

I am not denying the reality of the object. I am saying that “objectivity” seems to be a misnomer. I know why we use the word. We want to indicate that we are open to exposing our own bias. We are willing to suspend our presuppositions as much as is possible. These are worthwhile exercises, but they are not examples of someone being “objective”.

(2) We should not deny our presuppositions. We must acknowledge their existence. We must hold to them cautiously.

Marc Cortez commented on my second post written in response to Patton titled “The inconsistency of an evangelical apologist (or stop trying to insult our Roman Catholic friends).” In this post he asked me if my own preference for a less set-in-stone confessional stance meant that I basically agree with Patton’s overall thesis while only denying how he applies it to the differences between Roman Catholics and evangelicals. I think the answer is “yes” and “no”.

Obviously, even if I were qualified (I’m not), I would not be able to be hired at a Roman Catholic institution where I would have to teach particular Roman Catholic doctrines. Why? Well, I don’t agree with those doctrines so it would make it a bit odd. I can say the same thing about The Master’s Seminary (sorry, I affirm women leading in the church and I think professional counseling is a good thing) or Dallas Theological Seminary (dispensationalism still confuses me after all these years) or Reformed Theological Seminary (do I have to explain?). On the other hand, there are some institutions who either (A) have a shorter lists of affirmations for those seeking employment or (B) have a list of affirmations that I can affirm.

If Fuller Theological Seminary or George Fox Evangelical Seminary has a shorter list of things that need to be affirmed than Denver Seminary or Wheaton College does that make the former institutions more “open-minded” than the latter? If an evangelicalism allows for more divergent thinking without penalty than Roman Catholicism does that make it more “open-minded”? Maybe, but to say that it does for sure is to miss something.

Whether or not one is “open-minded” can be (1) subjective and (2) not necessarily good. First, let’s say James McGrath suddenly came to hold some conservative evangelical doctrines like the infallibility of Scripture and the doctrine of the Trinity as evangelicals hold to it. Let’s say he suddenly sees the gospels of the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ as the only message of salvation. In his next class he tells his Buddhist student that without Christ she is separated from God. When all this comes to the forefront will he maintain his position as the Clarence L. Goodwin Chair in New Testament Language and Literature at Butler University? Probably not without a fight and I am sure that if he affirmed these things before he was nominated to this position he would not have earned it.

Is Butler University “open-minded” to conservative evangelicals? I assume most honest people would say “no”. Is this a good thing, a bad thing, or just a thing? I guess it depends on whether or not you are a Buddhist student wanting to take a class on the historical Jesus this next semester or an evangelical wanting a job at Butler University!

We can argue that certain guidelines make for better scholarship. We can say that some so-called “rules” of historiography allow scholars of early Christianity ranging from confessional evangelical to atheist to have a meeting point and that for that reason alone we should maintain particular guidelines for order. That being said, I don’t know that we are correct to say one way is more “open-minded” than another.

On the other hand we may say that the Society of Biblical Literature is more “open-minded” in some ways that the Evangelical Theological Society. An evangelical can deliver a paper at SBL in San Francisco in Novemember. An atheist historian will not be presenting at ETS. Of course, when it comes down to it, even SBL must not be “open-minded” about everything. They reject paper proposals and they do not allow high school seniors to give talks.

Everyone has presuppositions. We all allows certain things to count as legitimate knowledge within our paradigm and we all reject other things. At the end of the day the best we can do is ask everyone to do their best to admit their presuppositions (e.g. Someone may not be able to accept the resurrection of Jesus as a historical event because that person does not think good historiography allows for an explanation that assumes anything beyond naturalism), without pretending that somewhere in the universe their presupposition is set in stone as the only way to see things.

(3) We must enter the so-called “hermeneutical spiral” allowing our presuppositions to be challenged at times. So while I am cautious about saying one group is “open-minded” while another is not, I do agree with Patton that we must enter some form of hermeneutical spiral to test ourselves. We must be willing to ask whether or not what we believe makes sense. This may be where he appealed to Descartes. As a fellow Frenchman I am not against Descartes doubt though I must appeal to my friends Derrida, Foucault, and Lyotard (and many others) in my skepticism that doubt will someone make sure better at reaching some form of pure knowledge.

This is where my statements about institutions with more wiggle-room come to play. It is not that I am “open-minded” so I prefer “open-minded” institutions. It is that I want to test my understanding of this or that and be free to change my mind within reasonable limits!

What are “reasonable limits? Well, you guessed it…that’s a bit subjective. I could not teach somewhere were I had to deny my Christian beliefs. I think I could teach in such a way that allows my students to reach their own conclusions, but if I were asked if I thought about subject A, B, or C I’d like to be able to answer. Likewise, this means I’d like to teach somewhere someday where if I change my mind on a fringe doctrine (e.g. the historicity of Adam and Eve) I won’t have to fake it to stay employed. So when I say I appreciate those institutions with wiggle-room it may be because they are more “open-minded” or it may be that they are open where I am open!

(4) There are many reasons for maintaining presuppositions. One reason for Roman Catholics is because they have concluded that the Magistrate has a particular kind of authority. They are open-minded to that possibility that the Pope of Rome can speak ex cathedra while I’m closed to this. If Pope Benedict XVI makes one of these declarations tomorrow most Roman Catholics will submit because they have reached particular conclusions about the Papacy, the church, and authority.

Is there anything superior about my evangelical, low-church “yes, I like tradition when it agrees with me and no, I don’t like it when it disagrees” approach? Not really. Any Roman Catholic is free to change his or her mind and face the consequences. I am free to change my mind and face the consequences. Whether this relates to where we worship or where we are employed the similarities are more than the differences.

I maintain some presuppositions because I don’t think I have the right as an individual to redefine certain things. That is a presupposition as well. I don’t think I have the right to deny that the church speaks of the Christian God as Trinity. If I struggle or wrestle with that doctrine at times it is my struggle, but the Great Tradition of Christianity affirms it so I will affirm that it is orthodoxy. If I were to ever feel like the doctrine of the Trinity doesn’t make sense or explain God very well that would be my problem, but I wouldn’t say that the church should change.

One of my presuppositions that leads to this presupposition is that I don’t think the Holy Spirit would allow the church to get something this essential so wrong. So even where I struggle with this or that nuance of the doctrine of the Trinity, it is orthodoxy in part because I trust that God sent his Spirit to lead and guide his church into truth.

Do I lack the consistency of my Roman Catholic and Orthodox friends in this area? Yup, but it is what it is and I know it. There are some presuppositions I must maintain for my Christianity to exist (i.e. God is good; God is love; God was in Christ reconciling the world to himself) and there are other things that I don’t need personally (i.e. the nature of communion is A).

(5) To be open-minded is usually a good thing, but extreme forms of open-mindedness are not a virtue. I cannot find the exact source of the quotation, but I think it was G.K. Chesterton who wrote, ”Merely having an open mind is nothing. The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.”

I am not a fundamentalist because I would starve since my mouth would always remain closed to new insight, truth, and perspective. I am not a relativist because I don’t want to gag to death on lies and error. Somewhere, like eating, we must learn when to keep our mind open and when to shut it; when to chew and swallow and when to choke and spit.

Sunday Quote: G.K. Chesterton on the New Rebel

G.K. Chesterton

Several years ago when I first read this quote from G.K. Chesterton it dawned on me that the person of his age which he dubbed “the new rebel” was simply the model citizen of the world in which I live today. As you read this quote ponder the hypocrisy of our politics, our media, our social debates, and ourselves:

…the new rebel is a skeptic, and will not entirely trust anything. He has no loyalty; therefore he can never be really a revolutionist. And the fact that he doubts everything really gets in his way when he wants to denounce anything. For all denunciation implies a moral doctrine of some kind; and the modern revolutionist doubts not only the institution he denounces, but the doctrine by which he denounces it. Thus he writes one book complaining that imperial impression insults the purity of women, and then he writes another book (about the sex problem) in which he insults it himself. He curses the Sultan because Christian girls lose their virginity, and then curses Mrs. Grundy because they keep it. As a politician, he will cry out that war is a waste of life, and then, as a philosopher that all life is a waste of time. A Russian pessimist will denounce a police man for killing a peasant, and then prove by the highest philosophical principles that the peasant ought to have killed himself. A man denounces marriage as a lie, and then denounces aristocratic profligates for treating it as a lie. He calls the flag a bauble, and then blames the oppressors of Poland or Ireland because they take away that bauble. The man of this school goes first to the political meeting, where he complains that savages are treated as if they were beast; then he takes his hat and umbrella and goes on to a scientific meeting, where he proves they practically are beast. In short, the modern revolutionist, being an infinite skeptic, is always engaged in undermining his own mines. In his book on politics he attacks men for trampling on morality; in his book on ethics he attacks morality for trampling on men. Therefore, the modern man in revolt has become practically useless for all purposes of revolt. By rebelling against everything he has lost his right to rebel against anything.

Orthodoxy, (2001 ed.) 53-54

Books That Changed My Life

Over at Patheos.com several people were asked to note books that have changed their faith-lives (not including the Bible) over the last ten years (see here). For those who care I thought I’d list mine as well. Here is my list:

(1) Mere Christianity, The Problem of Pain, The Great Divorce, and The Screw Tape Letters by C.S. Lewis

I know many have been influenced by C.S. Lewis’ Mere Christianity. In the Problem of Pain he provided me with some satisfying intellectual answers to the subject of the book though I would argue you can’t understand Lewis in this book without reading his personal memoir on suffering A Grief Observed. The Great Divorce helped me think more broadly about the doctrine of hell which has always been a difficult pill to swallow. Finally, the Screwtape Letters but a “personal” spin on demonology making it apparent that any interaction with this subject must include the fact that whatever demons do it is not computerized, it can be planned, and it must be logical. As one who has spent much time around Pentecostalism I appreciated the warning against fascination with the demonic; as one who has been studying in an academic setting for years I appreciated the warning against ignoring the demonic.

Life Together by Dietrich Bonhoeffer

If anyone can tell stories about being abused by fellow Christians it is I. For a long time I wanted to be one of those “non-religious” Christians who “followed Jesus” while being critical of the church. This seems a bit impractical in a religion with sacraments like baptism and the Eucharist that are both religious and ecclesiologically centered. In Bonhoeffer’s book I finally found myself comfortable as part of the church realizing that he was right when he said you have to love the church as she is now if you will ever see her become greater. In addition, I have come to realize that I am often as much a shame to Christianity as those I have judged. The beauty of our faith is not our success but the grace of God.

The Jesus I Never Knew by Philip Yancey

This book was recommended to me by my pastor, Jeff Garner. I read it over a Christmas Break from school. It changed the way I viewed Jesus forever. It put a face on what seemed like a ghost. I realized that the complexity of the gospel traditions is what makes the Jesus we have received so glorious.

The New Testament and the People of God, The Challenge of Jesus, The Last Word, Surprised by Hope, and After You Believe by N.T. Wright

The New Testament and the People of God was my introduction to reading N.T. Wright and it shaped my epistemology as well as my interest in how I approach New Testament studies. The Challenge of Jesus was peaked my interest in historical Jesus studies. The Last Word helped me think about the role of Scripture in the life of the church. Surprised by Hope confirmed so many things I was noticing in my own study of Scripture as regards eschatology and it cemented Romans 8 as my favorite chapter in all of Scripture. After You Believe provided me with a framework for Christian morality that I had not firmly established since leaving a very legalistic version of Christianity while in college.

Orthodoxy by G.K. Chesterton

This books was so witty and brilliant it made me what to convert to Roman Catholicism. I have remained a Protestant for many reasons but this book, like Bonhoeffer’s, reinforced my commitment to the historical church and her teachings. It is one of the few books I have read more than a couple of times.

On the Incarnation by Athanasius of Alexandria

This book introduced me to the beauty of the Nicene Creed as well as the Greek Fathers like Basil, the Gregories, John Chrysostom, and so forth. Often it seems that Athanasius noticed aspects of Scripture, especially Paul, that modern commentators ignore. For all the criticism the Western church has launched against theosis it is obvious to me that Athanasius and others realized the essential need to be united with God by Christ through the Holy Spirit. This book made me see how important Christ is to this aspect of our salvation and the redemption of the cosmos.

Unlocking Romans by J.R. Daniel Kirk

This book reformatted my reading of Romans. It has long been my favorite book of the Bible but there were so many pieces that seems to be disconnected. Kirk helped provide a structure by emphasizing how the doctrine of resurrection functions in the epistle. It has led me to see the importance of the Adam-Christ contrast, the role of the Holy Spirit in the new humanity, and the destiny of the entire creation.

God’s Empowering Presence by G.D. Fee

I read this entire massive exposition on all references or allusions to the Holy Spirit in the letters of Paul. It changed my life. I was raised around Pentecostalism and I knew the Spirit was important but the framework with which I was provided (Spirit =  essentially tongues) seemed a bit limited. This book expanded my Pneumatology like no other.

An Odd Fascination with Heresy

There are two groups of people who use the word heresy much too often. The first are so-called “heresy hunters” that spend all their time telling everyone why group A is right about doctrines one through one-thousand and why group B is incorrect about everything. These people have nothing edifying to say. In addition, these same people think they are beyond error themselves and therefore, as mini-Popes, they declares ex cathedra who is “in” and who is “out” (e.g. “Ken Silva, pastor-teacher“).

One of the things that bothers me the most about this group is how they blur the lines between differences and heresy. We ought to use the word “heresy” with caution. It is a serious word. It means that someone is teaching something that equates them with false doctrine. By “false doctrine” I do not mean what a Calvinist thinks of an Arminian or what a Baptist thinks of a Pentecostal. I mean something like Arianism; something condemned by a creed; something that received an anathema from the Apostle Paul; something that directly contradicts the core of the gospel.

These people become easy to ignore because everything is black and white to them. Brian McLaren is the same as Rob Bell who is the same as Erwin McManus who is the same as Robert Schuler who is the same as  Don Miller who is the same as you-name-it. Basically anyone who has a larger church or a different opinion is a heretic. The problem with that is if, for example, McLaren is beginning to teach some heretical you have already lumped him in with people who are not teaching heresy at all. So when you call example one a heretic people remember that you associated him with examples two through thirty. Suddenly, we don’t believe you about example one either.

The second are self-identified “heretics”. These people may be responding to group one, but it is really annoying. They call themselves a heretic, giggle a bit, wink at their friends, and give high-fives to other “heretics”. On Twitter they identify themselves as #outlawpreacher or #outlawtheologian. I am not sure if they think of themselves as legitimately heretical or if this is some sort of “I’m a new Reformer like Martin Luther”. These people do not take heresy serious either. These people are fascinated with their own cute novelties.

These people were address by G.K. Chesterton long ago when he wrote the following:

Nothing more strangely indicates an enormous and silent evil of modern society than the extraordinary use which is made nowadays of the word “orthodox”. In former days the heretic was proud of not being a heretic. It was the kingdoms of this world and the police and the judges who were heretics. He was orthodox. He had no pride in having rebelled against them; they had rebelled against him. Their armies with their cruel security, the kings with their cold faces, the decorous process of the State, the reasonable process of law—all these like sheep had gone astray. The man was proud of being orthodox, proud of being right. If he stood alone in a howling wilderness he was more than a man; he was a church. He was the centre of the universe; it was round him that the stars swung. All the tortures torn out of forgotten hells could not make him admit that he was heretical. But a few modern phrases have made him boast of it. He says, with a conscious laugh, “I suppose I am very heretical”, and looks round for applause. The word “heresy” not only means no longer being wrong; it practically means being clear-headed and courageous. The word “orthodoxy” not only no longer means being right; it practically means being wrong. All this can mean one thing, and one thing only. It means people care less for whether they are philosophically right. For obvious a man ought to confess himself crazy before he confess himself heretical. The Bohemian, with a red tie, ought to pique himself on his orthodoxy. The dynamiter, laying a bomb, ought to feel that, whatever else he is, at least he is orthodox. [1]

If you are a heretic at least belief you are orthodox. What kind of heretic boast in his own heresy? This is narcissism at its worst. One thinks they are so important that their very being changes heresy from a bad to good thing. It is silly. What I enjoy seeing from a heretic is the response, “No, you are a heretic”. At least we can proceed from there and it sure beats those who just giggle and skip away.

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[1] Heretics, 11.

The Proverbs of G.K. Chesterton [3]

Another brilliant quote by G.K Chesterton on the sinfulness of humanity:

If it be true (as it certainly is) that a man can feel exquisite happiness in skinning a cat, then the religious philosopher can only draw one of two deductions. He must either deny the existence of God, as all atheist do; or he must deny the present union between God and man, as all Christians do. The new theologians seem to think it a highly rationalistic solution to deny the cat. (p. 11)

The Proverbs of G.K. Chesterton [2]


From the chapter “The Maniac” in Orthodoxy we find this statement by G.K. Chesterton:

Certain new theologians dispute original sin, which is the only part of Christian theology which can really be proved. (p. 11)

There is a lot of truth in this statement. While we may debate the finer points of the doctrine of original sin, the historicity of Adam and Eve, and how it is that the “sin-nature” is passed along from one generation to another, we cannot deny that humans, at their core, are fractured, broken, and more often than not simply evil.

Yes, we have our better moments, but even those seem all too tainted. In the dark, alone, reflecting upon our thoughts and actions, the most honest of us admit that there is something wrong, there is something sinister. There is something that needs to be fixed, redeemed, renewed, and reborn.

While there are many theologians who want to speak of the goodness of humanity and who remind us that we are made in the imago dei, we ought to remember that when we read the Book of Genesis and the Epistle to the Romans something has gone wrong. The Apostle Paul writes that we exchanged this glory of God for idolatry. We went from God’s image-bearers in creation to worshiping the very creation we were to care for on God’s behalf. So yes, we are made in God’s image, but Chesterton is right–there is nothing more obvious and easy to prove than the fact that we don’t look anything like the original model.

The Proverbs of G.K. Chesterton [1]


I randomly picked up G.K. Chesterton’s Orthodoxy off of my bookshelf last night and I began to read through it for the first time in probably six years. It reminded me how brilliant that man could be. I will be sharing some occasional quotes here from that book with my thoughts attached. I hope that if you have never read anything of Chesterton that this may spark your interest in a man who seems to have been about a century ahead of his time while equally grounded in his own day.

The first quote I want to share is actually from the forward of the version I have published by Harold Shaw Publishers in 2001. This edition had a forward by popular evangelical author Philip Yancey. He shares this story:

When the London Times asked a number of writers for essays on the topic ‘What is Wrong with the World?’ Chesterton sent in the reply shortest and most to the point:

Dear Sirs:

I am.

Sincerely yours,

G.K. Chesterton

This is the negative side of those words of wisdom accredited to Gandhi when he said, “You must be the change you wish to see in the world.” Yet it is a more important starting point that Gandhi presented. It begins in the reality that we are sinful, inadequate, and as in need of salvation as any one else. It echoes the words of the Apostle Paul who claimed himself to be chief of all sinners. It realized that all finger pointing begins while first looking in the mirror and realizing I am just as much a part of the problem as any sinner.

Taken from the introduction by Philip Yancey (p. xix-xx) from the 2001 Harold Shaw Publishers reprint of Orthodoxy by G.K. Chesterton.