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Christians, homosexuality, and civil discourse.

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Now that Proposition 8 has been ruled unconstitutional it seems quite apparent that the public debate over the meaning of civil marriage could become a subject that goes before the Supreme Court in the next few years. This would make it a subject that impacts every Christian in the United States. I noticed when this was a proposition put forth to the citizens of California that there was much confusion among Christians (this continues: see the USA Today article “Religious leads call Prop 8 ruling ‘insult’ or ‘victory’”). This resulted in a lot of emotional dialogue. Afterward I remember hearing some pastors who had led their churches in a fight against the legalization of gay marriage state that they regretted doing so. One pastor said that he hated the idea of people giving him lewd gestures because of something other than the cross of Christ, but instead because they thought Christians hated homosexuals. He maintained his position that homosexuality was immoral, but he seemed less assured that this meant Christians should spend time fighting in the courts.

Of course, there were many Christians who did side with the LGBTQ community seeing this as a civil rights issue. Some found homosexuality to be moral in general, others in a committed relationship, and others thought it might be immoral before God, but that the State has no right to tell people that they could not wed. Personally, I have wrestled with this subject being a Christian who has lived in San Francisco and Portland the last several years and often I have had conflicted emotions. It was not merely an academic debate. I had friends who felt that they had a homosexual orientation, but that they were as Christian as me. It was hard for them to see other Christians either deny that they were “real” Christians and/or oppose their right to marry someone they loved.

Whatever you come to affirm regarding the concept of homosexual marriage it is essential to try to think through this subject. This is a process worth considering for every Christian:

First, one must decide what one thinks about the authority of Scripture and the tradition of the church. Another way of framing this is “Where do I derive my moral values?”

Some Christians may find Scripture to be the final word on morality. Other Christians may find Scripture to be internally conflicted noting that people have used Scripture to justify slavery and misogyny.

If we find Scripture to be the final word on morality then we must engage the hermeneutical task (see next). If not, we need to ask what role the tradition of the church has in this matter, if any. For example, a Roman Catholic may not see a biblical reason for sexual abstinent male clergy, but they might conclude that the authority of the church and her tradition is much clearer and therefore one should submit to this authority/tradition.

If one is a Christian who finds neither Scripture nor the tradition of the church useful for speaking to this matter then it would do one well to determine where their views on morality derive. Is it useful to talk about “Christian” morality without Scripture and the church of years past? If so, how?

If we find Scripture to be the final (not only) authority we must engage the hermeneutical task.

This includes the traditions of the church since we are not the first people to read Scripture and we do not read Scripture in a vacuum. It is wise to see what others have said since they are not confined to our cultural and historical context. That said, they were influenced by their own cultural and historical context and that must be considered. Our greatest thinkers are not inerrant.

If Scripture is the “final” authority then we see the tradition of the church as influential in this matter, but not absolute. After listening to the “democracy of the dead” as G.K. Chesteron called it we must move to the exegetical task.

We must ask how moral principles are derived from Scripture.

Do we divide Scripture by testaments? Do we have a eschatological frameworklike dispensationalism? If so, what do we do with prohibitions against homosexuality in the Hebrew Bible? If not, we must ask if there is a difference between how Israel related to God and how the church relates to God.

If we find the Hebrew Bible relevant for the Christian moral imagination we must ask why moral language regarding homosexuality is applicable but not other things ranging from holidays and dietary laws to other aspects of ancient near eastern culture found in Scripture (particular ideas about marriage, the family, property ownership, various civil laws, et cetera).

If we do not find them relevant we must develop a framework for how early Israelite and Jewish morality works in relation to Christianity. We must ask ourselves how to interpret the Law of Moses, the narratives of Israel, and the criticisms of the prophets. Why do we find some parts influential (even authoritative) and others not so much?

Once we have thought about the Hebrew Bible we need to think about our views of the New Testament. How do we derive morality from the narratives of the Gospels and the Book of Acts, the letters of the Apostle Paul, the catholic epistles, and the Apocalypse.

What role do Jesus traditions play in our moral formation? If we’re not a strict literalist on matters related to violence and treatment of the poor we must ask why we are about sexual matters. How do we interpret Jesus’ words on divorce? Do we provide exceptions on something that seems fairly “black-and-white”? If so, what makes exceptions to Jesus’ words on divorce different than exceptions on other matters? Jesus is not recorded as addressing this issue. Does that matter?

If we find the Apostle Paul’s words on homosexuality authoritative what do we say of matters related to the role of women and slaves in society? If we find exceptions to Paul’s words there (either for one or both subjects) what is our principle for maintaining the applicability of his views on homosexuals for the modern church. Does it matter that he seems to mention things related to homosexuality in lists/descriptions of sins?

Like Jesus’ words on divorce do we allow for “exceptions”? For example, some have argued that Paul was never confronted with the idea of monogamous homosexuals. If this is true does it change the way one reads Paul’s words on this matter? If not, why not?

After someone has thought about their views on the authority of Scripture and tradition on this matter one must ask what impact that has on civil discourse. 

Some one could theoretically find no case for prohibiting monogamous homosexual relationships from Scripture but they could have philosophical or sociological reasons for opposing it. If one does find that Scripture declares homosexuality immoral the next question is whether it should impact civil discourse. Most Christians do not think that people should be put in prison for being homosexual. We are quite divided over whether or not they should be able to participate in a civil marriage.

Someone could find homosexuality to be immoral, maybe beyond what is allowed for Christians, but that same person could find attempts to enforce these views on fellow citizens in a pluralistic world unfitting.

If one is a Christian who find homosexuality to be wrong because of biblical texts, the traditions of the church, or some combination do that person think this should be enforced by the State? If so, why? If not, why not?

What type of morality should move from privatized to public? Most Christians believe alcoholism and murder are both wrong. Likewise, most do not support ideas like the prohibition against selling alcohol or tobacco but they do force their morality on others regarding murder. Where does homosexual marriage fall on this continuum?

I don’t have flawless (maybe even good) answers to these questions and like other Christians I must continue to think about this subject. I must ask why I believe what I believe. What we cannot do is ignore the subject or respond on a purely emotional basis. We cannot dismiss one another off hand and we cannot mindlessly throw around our favorite biblical texts. We must ask the Father to fill us with his Spirit, to give us wisdom, to make us graceful toward one another as we wrestle with this matter.

One place to start could be the discussion between Daniel Kirk (see here and other posts on the subject here) and Tony Jones (here and here) on the subject. It was civil and straightforward. It didn’t collapse into the ugly confrontations often associated with discussing this subject.

Personally, I’ve been influenced by Richard B. Hays The Moral Vision of the New Testament and William J. Webb’s Slaves, Women, and Homosexuals. I think these two do a solid job of presenting a more conservative sexual ethic for Christians, though this says little about how that relates to civic discourse. That said, I try to hold my position with humility realizing I could be wrong, I could have a wrong interpretation, and God judges through Christ, not me. For those who have been persuaded by books or essays leaning the other direction please feel free to share your thoughts in the comments.

Your welcome to leave comments below (please be kind with your words).

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Author: Brian LePort

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10 thoughts on “Christians, homosexuality, and civil discourse.

  1. How are moral principles derived from Scripture? Non-Theologian academics may not like the answer but moral principles are derived from scripture by way of the Holy Spirit (illumination). The early church is responsible for much of our moral landscape in deriving principles from scripture.

    One theory why is suggested by the following quote:

    “It is difficult to follow an early church example when we value a book they did not have, more than the Holy Spirit they did have. It is not the Father, Son and Holy Bible.”

  2. Well said Brian. This subject is much more complicated than is often assumed, so thanks for bringing that out. One of may favorite exchanges on the subject is between Luke Timothy Johnson and Eve Tushnet in Commonwealth magazine from a few years ago: http://commonwealmagazine.org/homosexuality-church-1. I don’t necessarily agree with where either of them lands, but I think the focus of the discussion is in the right place.

    The tone and volume of such discussions is usually over the top, and often what is lost is the church’s care for those who struggle with the issue. So often, those who are adamantly opposed to the practice are those who demonstrate the least compassion. I am at a conservative seminary, and far too often one can hear flippant jokes and comments on the subject. For those who think that homosexuality is sin, shouldn’t the response be weeping/prayer/encouragement for them rather than ridicule? One of the most disturbing statistics in the church is the amount of suicides by Christians who struggle with homosexuality. Clearly our response has not been adequate.

  3. @jessec50: I agree with your post, but your broad-brush stroke generalization I have to comment on. I’ve edited it correctness:

    “So often, those who are adamantly opposed to the practice are those who demonstrate the greatest concern for moral behaviour”.

  4. @Andrew: I was not making a moral judgment on homosexuality one way or another. My concern is the manner in which many well-meaning and sincere Christians often approach the subject. As always I speak from my own experience and do not intend to make any sweeping generalizations. I have seen the topic approached with love and humility, but unfortunately those exchanges have been far outweighed by those I described above.

  5. Andrew

    I agree that there is an essential role for the Holy Spirit. In fact, I think one could say the Spirit would be involved at each step of this process. I wonder how we “decide” between two Christians filled with the same Spirit who come to different understandings of this situation though. Thoughts?

    Jesse

    Thank you! I agree. Most discussions on this subject get ugly, quick! I will take a look at the L.T. Johnson – E. Tushnet correspondence.

  6. @jessec50: I wasn’t accusing you of making moral judgements on homosexuality, rather I was accusing you of making generalizations about those who oppose the practice. Having said that, you rebutt that your estimation (which I see as a hasty generalization) is based upon your experience, and I cannot argue with that. Your experience is your experience.

    @Brian: To answer your question would require more than a brief comment, yet I’ll try. If two people are indeed of the same Spirit, and that Spirit is of God, one of two things is true: either the two are at the same state of maturity in Christ, or they are not.

    If the former is true, there will be unity in belief and ernestness, since the bible promises this; or
    If the latter is true, there will be unity in earnestness, but not in belief.

    In the first case, there will be no need to decide between the two, while in the second case there will be. How do we decide? The bible says we judge a tree by the fruit it produces [Luke 6:44][Matt 7:16,20] (and we know this fruit is that of the Spirit [Jer 8:13]). Clearly, the more mature of the two will exhibit greater ‘fruit’.

    For the sake of the less mature, we are admonished not to tred on their conscience, lest we weaken their faith (often expressed as ‘In essentials, unity – In non-essentials, liberty.’ (from [Rom 14:1-15:7]).

    So, for example, have you met Christians who profess to believe in the truth, yet are the first to deny truth may be known? How do you reckon such fruit? Have you met people who profess to be Christians, perhaps some who articulate a world view you can even agree with, but who your conscience dictates are not Christ-like? Have you met others who seem to espouse a world view you reject, are rough around the edges, but who, you can tell, love Christ above all else and seem to be like Him?

    If you have, than you have not only been exercising such discernment, but practicing what it is you’re asking about. In few words then, there are two types of division; true division due to the absence of the spirit, and apparent division due to lack of maturity in the faith. I believe, academics aside, that you are able to discern between the two; and likely have, even if you cannot or will not explain how this can be.

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  9. I very much enjoyed your thoughts on how we need to examine our stance on homosexuals, still, I can not 100% agree with it. I volunteer in a juvenile prison and some of the young adults I speak with live the gay lifestyle. More and more, I have come to a position of mercy and like you, believe that Christ ultimately will judge. Everyone chooses a course in life based on experiences. Psychologists, in studying homosexuality, (when it was still acceptable to do so) have stated that rejection, trauma, abuse and sometimes simply an attraction to the same sex all play into people’s choice for a homosexual lifestyle. In speaking with many people over the years about homosexuality, I have found the psychologists research to be true, but…maybe the real question is can we condone sin. I had a homosexual youth ask me recently, (and they always ask) if being a homosexual is a sin. My response was, “I would be lying to you if I said that homosexuality was not a sin, it is sin, just like engaging in gossip, or having an affair or being prideful. All of those things are sin. God loves us where we’re at, but He wants us to quit sinning and follow Him.” Our job is to move from sin into living for him. You are right about all of the other sins Christians conveniently sweep under the rug: divorce, drunkenness, slander, greed and pride. We shouldn’t condone all of those sins either, but over time, all of those things have become more acceptable. Maybe, the real problem is that we should be condemning all sin more within our own lives, then we would have a platform to speak truth into peoples lives. In John 8:7, it was interesting what Christ said to the man who wanted to stone the adulterous woman. “You who are without sin, throw the first stone.” The crowd dispersed…

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